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<journal-id>0185-3058</journal-id>
<journal-title><![CDATA[Nova tellus]]></journal-title>
<abbrev-journal-title><![CDATA[Nova tellus]]></abbrev-journal-title>
<issn>0185-3058</issn>
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<publisher-name><![CDATA[Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Instituto de Investigaciones Filológicas]]></publisher-name>
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<article-id>S0185-30582006000100063</article-id>
<article-id pub-id-type="doi">10.19130/iifl.nt.2006.24.1.195</article-id>
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<article-title xml:lang="es"><![CDATA[&#8220;El día viejo y nuevo&#8221; (Nubes, v. 1134) o las novedosas ideas del conservador Aristófanes]]></article-title>
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<contrib contrib-type="author">
<name>
<surname><![CDATA[Fernández]]></surname>
<given-names><![CDATA[Claudia N.]]></given-names>
</name>
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<aff id="Af1">
<institution><![CDATA[,Universidad Nacional de La Plata  ]]></institution>
<addr-line><![CDATA[ ]]></addr-line>
<country>Argentina</country>
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<pub-date pub-type="pub">
<day>00</day>
<month>06</month>
<year>2006</year>
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<pub-date pub-type="epub">
<day>00</day>
<month>06</month>
<year>2006</year>
</pub-date>
<volume>24</volume>
<numero>1</numero>
<fpage>63</fpage>
<lpage>89</lpage>
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<self-uri xlink:href="http://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&amp;pid=S0185-30582006000100063&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><self-uri xlink:href="http://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_abstract&amp;pid=S0185-30582006000100063&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><self-uri xlink:href="http://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?script=sci_pdf&amp;pid=S0185-30582006000100063&amp;lng=en&amp;nrm=iso"></self-uri><abstract abstract-type="short" xml:lang="es"><p><![CDATA[Resumen La inminente llegada del &#8220;día viejo y nuevo&#8221; desvela al endeudado Estrepsíades, el protagonista de Nubes, pues es el momento del mes en que los acreedores pueden comenzar un litigio en reclamo de la paga. La contradicción semántica inscripta en la denominación que el calendario lunar griego le asigna a este día cifra en su disputa conceptual la controvertida resolución de los sentidos de la pieza. El propósito de este artículo es ahondar en el antagonismo entre las ideas, conceptos y conductas que en la pieza representan lo viejo y lo nuevo, lo tradicional y lo innovador, en ámbitos diversos como el del conflicto generacional, y el del debate intelectual, pedagógico y poético.]]></p></abstract>
<abstract abstract-type="short" xml:lang="en"><p><![CDATA[Abstract The imminent arrival of the &#8220;old and new day&#8221; upsets Strepsiades, the debt-ridden protagonist of Clouds, because it is the time of the month when the creditors can begin to litigate to get their money back. The semantic contradiction involved in the name the Greek moon calendar assigns to this day summarizes in its conceptual dispute the controversial denouement of meanings of the comedy. The aim of this article is to explore in depth the opposition between ideas, concepts, and behaviors that express the old and the new, the traditional and the innovative, in several spheres of the play, such as the conflict between generations and the intellectual, pedagogic, and poetic debates.]]></p></abstract>
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